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2020.09.06 18:14 NewsPlant Inside the online cult of #JusticeforSSR The story of three men united by their fever-pitch resentment towards Rhea Chakraborty, and their anger and grief at the death of a Bollywood star.
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The Facebook group in question is called “Justice for Sushant Singh Rajput”. With over one lakh followers, it’s peppered with posts hashtagged #ArrestRheaChakraborty and #IAmSushant.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
“She should be hanged,” said Singh Dheeraj, one of the group’s five administrators. “But then again, in our country, it took very long for even Afzal Guru or Yakub Memon to be hanged..."
Dheeraj is a final-year engineering student in Faridabad. He agreed to talk to me over a Facebook Messenger call only after he confirmed that I’m a “nationalist”. “I’m against anti-nationalism,” he told me. About being one of the admins of the Facebook group, he said, chuckling: “I have not told my parents or friends. They will think that I am not focusing on my studies.”
For a nation obsessed with Bigg Boss**, viewers no longer need to wait for an episode to be shot and aired. A version of this reality show, well-known for its voyeuristic appeal, plays out all day, every day, on social media and TV news screens. Ever since actor Sushant Singh Rajput died in June, the saga that followed has unfolded on our screens, and the past month has been particularly binge-worthy.**
In a profile by the New York Times in June, talk show host Jon Stewart said, “Twenty-four-hour news networks are built for one thing, and that’s 9/11. There are very few events that would justify being covered 24 hours a day, seven days a week. So in the absence of urgency, they have to create it.”
And this is exactly what’s happened following Rajput’s death. Except this isn’t a movie — Chakraborty cannot take off her make-up and go home at the end of the day. Instead, she’s been thrust into a real-life trial by the media, where everyone watching, from national television anchors to quiet college-going students, has turned jurist.
In the process, Chakraborty has been torn apart by leading TV news channels, which demand her arrest, accuse her of “black magic” , camp out outside her building, pass off conspiracy theories as “news”, and conduct “postmortems” of Rajput himself. Republic’s Arnab Goswami screaming about drugs is only surpassed by Times Now’s Navika Kumar breathlessly running into the studio claiming to have a bag full of incriminating documents.
“It isn’t that Arnab or Navika don’t know what they’re doing,” said Pratik Sinha, founder of fact-checking site Alt News**. “They know exactly what and why they go on camera for. They have people to please.”**
Instead, it’s worth asking why young men and women like Dheeraj, who have never met either Rajput or Chakraborty, suddenly find themselves dedicating hours to administering Facebook groups that seek “justice for Sushant”.
For this, I spoke to three men – Saahil Chaudhary, an aspiring actomodel; Surjeet Singh Rathore, a member of the Karni Sena, a caste Hindu group; and Dheeraj. What links them is their fever-pitch resentment towards Chakraborty, and their anger and grief at the death of a Bollywood star.
Humans of #ArrestRheaChakrabortyOver the course of lengthy conversations, I asked all the three men where they found their conviction to convict Rhea Chakraborty.
Dheeraj hadn’t been a big fan of Rajput; what drew him was the fact that Rajput, like himself, was also from Bihar and managed to make it big in Bollywood.
For Dheeraj, the logic is fairly simple as to why he believes that Rajput was murdered, and did not die by suicide.
“How can they suddenly call him crazy now?” he said, possibly referring to reports on Rajput’s mental health. “It must have something to do with the fact that Rhea was living with him, right?”
This is a popular theory. Rajput’s therapist broke confidentiality last month and said the actor had depression and bipolar disorder. While the therapist also said Chakraborty was his “strongest support”, Rajput’s family has claimed that he “started having mental problems” after Chakraborty “came into his life”.
When I asked Dheeraj what kind of changes he thinks Chakraborty brought into Rajput’s life, he paused and came up with this anecdote, which he said is tied to the idea of an “ideal home”.
“Agar Salman [Khan] ki girlfriend ya wife aur Salman ke beech scene hua, toh kiska chalega? Salman ka hi chalega. Aur jabki yahan par Sushant aur Rhea ke sath jo scene hua, usme kiska chala tha? Rhea ka chala tha,” he said. (If something happens between Salman Khan and his girlfriend or wife, who will win? Salman will. And here, if something happened between Sushant and Rhea, who used to win? Rhea used to.)
But why did he think Chakraborty was controlling Rajput? Dheeraj brought up how Chakraborty tried to “change” Rajput’s staff members and friends.
“She had things to hide...look how she was acting with Mahesh Bhatt,” he said. “Was it correct of her to behave that way when she was with Sushant? Anyway, I am a nationalist, I am anti-Bollywood, anti-Rhea and anti-all these drugs and alcohol she used to do.” He refused to elaborate further.
This feeds into the image of Chakraborty constructed by the mainstream media. Photos of her posing on a beach in swimwear, or videos of her working out in sportswear are repeatedly shown during panel discussions, suggesting to viewers, like Dheeraj, that she’s some sort of promiscuous, gold-digging seductress with no “morality” or “culture”.
After some hesitation, he admitted that he believes Chakraborty deserves capital punishment, though he was quick to add: “Justice should be achieved but not hanging. Anyway in our country it was already difficult to hang people like Yakub Memon or Afzal Guru so obviously she cannot be hanged...but she should be punished...Women are like goddesses for me.”
Dheeraj didn’t watch Dil Bechara**, the movie starring Rajput that released after the latter’s death, because he was juggling between his studies and the Facebook group. He also spends a large part of his day “counselling” women, he said. “Him [Rajput] going away has caused a lot of sadness to many girls,” he explained. “I send them videos...I try to make them understand.”**
Not far from Dheeraj, in the same state of Haryana, Saahil Chaudhary took to his YouTube channel on August 27, minutes after Chakraborty gave her first television interview to Rajdeep Sardesai on Aaj Tak.
Wearing a fitted white t-shirt and a neatly shaped beard, Chaudhary folded his hands and addressed his two lakh followers: “Somebody please hammer Rajdeep Sardesai’s head.” He spewed expletives against Chakraborty — zaleel aurath, haram ki bachhi and madarchodd ki bachhi being some of them — while his followers echoed his views gleefully in the comments section below, calling Chakraborty a “prostitute” and a “lady Dawood”.
This video received over 2.85 lakh views on YouTube.
Chaudhary has been busy for the last few months, providing daily updates on the investigation into Rajput’s death. He posted his first video on June 17, two days after Rajput died, telling his viewers that it was his “duty” to “expose the dirty secrets of Bollywood”.
In the video, Chaudhary claimed to have met Rajput “four or five times”. “He was such a gentleman, so kind-hearted. Today, I’m not going to spare anyone.” Since then, Chaudhary has uploaded 48 similar videos. According to him, Chakraborty must be arrested at once and the powerful in Bollywood should be shamed.
Importantly, when I spoke to Chaudhary, he denied having ever met the actor. During our conversation, his own frustrations at not being able to “make it big” in Bollywood were evident. “Out of lakhs of people, one got a chance and he became a star, but then you killed him?” he said. “What the fuck? You murdered him?”
Chaudhary runs a gym in Haryana, and has been trying to make it as an actor and model for over 10 years. Unable to be cast even as the friend of the hero, he started to explore YouTube to make himself more visible, he said. From cooking videos to workout videos to health tips and now the Rajput case, he feels like he’s finally found a platform to gain some stardom.
Although, he added, none of his videos on YouTube are monetised. Chaudhary has over two lakh subscribers on his channel. His most-watched video, with over two million views, is regarding who Chakraborty is dating.
When I asked him for the source of his information to declare Chakraborty guilty, Chaudhary said that people sent him articles and photos that he “verifies using logic”. After this “verification”, he concluded: “Rhea is hiding facts and is involved in the murder.” During the course of our chat, he also claimed that Chakraborty is a “gold-digger” who was having an affair with director Mahesh Bhatt.
So, what would he tell Chakraborty if he ever met her? “I don’t want to talk to her,” he replied. “I will simply do what the entire public wants to do: uske kaan ke neeche bajaunga main. I will give her a tight slap. I am sure that when this happens, the public will be satisfied. With this one slap, Sushant Singh’s parents and sisters will be at peace.”
Surjeet Singh Rathore
YouTube is Chaudhary’s platform of choice, but Surjeet Singh Rathore came into the limelight when he appeared on Arnab Goswami’s primetime show on Republic Bharat on August 21.
The show was hashtagged #WhySorryRhea, and Rathore was introduced as an “eyewitness” who was reportedly present when Chakraborty saw Rajput’s body at the Cooper Hospital mortuary. According to Rathore, Chakraborty “confessed” to her crime then; she placed her hand on her chest and said, “Sorry, babu.”
“Why is she saying sorry? Was she involved?” Rathore asked Goswami, who took long, dramatic pauses and repeatedly asked Rathore to describe Chakraborty’s demeanour.
Rathore is a member of the Karni Sena, a Rajput group. When I spoke to him on the telephone, he said he was in Rajasthan, the Karni Sena’s home state, from where he would “speak the truth”. After appearing on Republic, he claimed, Mumbai became “unsafe” for him. “I am not scared,” he added. “If something happens to me or Kangana Ranaut, Karni Sena poori Hindustan mein aag lagaenge. The Karni Sena will set fire to the whole of India.”
What does that mean? He replied, “Don’t you remember our Padmavat movement?”
Here’s a quick refresher: In 2017, the Karni Sena led a violent campaign against Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s movie Padmavat, claiming it tarnished the reputation of Rajputs and misappropriated history. Before the movie was released, Karni Sena workers vandalised the film set, slapped the director, trashed a theatre playing the movie’s trailer, threatened to cut off actor Deepika Padukone’s nose and behead Padukone and Bhansali, moved petitions to ban the film, and received support from the Bharatiya Janata Party.
The group eventually retreated when Padmavat was released, saying there was, after all, “nothing objectionable” in the film.
Rathore told me he had once spoken to Sushant Singh Rajput on the phone when the Padmavat incident occurred, to tell Rajput not to support Bhansali. Apart from that, they’ve never met, though he met Chakraborty once, according to him, at the mortuary. As he explained to Goswami, he apparently went to the mortuary to see Sushant as a fellow Rajput.
Why is Rathore so involved in this case?
“I am a Rajput. I am a member of the Karni Sena. Sushant was also a Rajput, it’s my right to be involved,” Rathore replied.
When he left the mortuary, he said, Aaj Tak spoke to him but the interview never aired. So, Rathore approached Arnab Goswami who helped him “bring the news to the world”. Rathore added that Chakraborty must be arrested “as soon as possible” on the basis of her saying “Sorry, babu” to Rajput’s body.
In his post-Republic days, Rathore spends his time answering “calls from all across the country, mostly from my supporters and from TV channels”. He has a girlfriend but he quickly said, “Woh Rhea jaisi nahi hai.” She is not like Rhea.
Currently, Rathore’s Facebook page, which has over 21,000 followers, is filled with posts seeking justice for Rajput, Rathore’s TV interviews, and pictures from his time in Jaipur. One photo shows him standing on a terrace, arms extended, with the caption: “For success in life...you need two things...Ignorance and confidence...❤️ My Jaipur.”
Politics to the RightThrough the course of my conversations with these men, it became apparent that what irritated them the most was Chakraboty’s alleged infidelity. As men, they seemed to empathise with the pain Rajput might have gone through of loving a “morally corrupt woman”.
Apart from that, the other common thread was their tendency to be aligned with the Right. However, only Dheeraj openly proclaimed his support for the BJP; both Rathore and Chaudhary said this issue isn’t political.
Dheeraj’s affinity towards the Right came forward in our conversation when he asked me if I had worked as a reporter during the citizenship law protests, and what I felt about BJP leader Kapil Mishra’s role. Mishra had made an incendiary speech in February targeting the protesters against the Citizenship Amendment Act, and the Delhi riots followed soon after, leaving over 50 dead.
When I told him that no matter what side I’m on, violence is not the way out, he said, “Violence for religion is justifiable. There are Muslims living in my lane. Tomorrow if they block the road, there is a limit to how long one can wait for the police before taking action himself.”
He also brought up Asifa Bhano, the eight-year-old who was raped and murdered in Jammu in 2018. “Why is that when Asifa, that Muslim child, was raped in a temple in Jammu, all Bollywood celebrities came out and shamed the country?” he said. “What about Hindu women? I am not saying they should not speak about the injustice against Asifa, I’m just saying you cannot internationally shame your country. These celebrities, they are not with us Hindus. They are not with the country.”
Dheeraj, Chaudhary and Rathore all agreed that the only journalists currently doing his job correctly is Arnab Goswami. Dheeraj added that he’s a fan of Zee News’ Sudhir Chaudhary and Aaj Tak’s Anjana Om Kashyap — both of whom are also known for their proclivity towards the BJP.
Lack of moderation of hate contentAfter these chats, I went through 15 Facebook pages dedicated to fighting for “justice” for Rajput, which has now become synonymous with arresting Chakraborty. These pages are managed by 35 admins in total, of which 20 seemed to have authentic profiles on Facebook, three were clearly fake, three were aliases, and nine I couldn’t tell.
I identified fake profiles based on the fact that they had no personal or authentic pictures. The profile images were either pictures of Rajput or representational images, the friends list was limited, and there was no personal information like place of work.
There was no consistent pattern to be established between the profiles, apart from their support for Rajput, love for Goswami, and hate towards Chakraborty. Some had a history of hateful, communal posts, or far-Right posts, some had posts critical of the government, and others had almost no political posts at all.
Here’s a sample of the sort of hate spewed against Chakraborty.
In the background of this venom is the fact that Facebook India has been facing tough questions in recent weeks over its propensity to ignore hate speech. A Wall Street Journal piece reported on Facebook’s soft approach to posts inciting violence by members of the BJP, although the social media giant has robust policies for the same — on paper, at least.
It doesn’t take much to notice that most of the pages I surveyed violate multiple regulations and standards set by Facebook, especially with regards to hate speech, bullying and harassment , and violence and incitement. Nevertheless, most of them have been online for over six weeks, and continue to garner a massive following and rapid engagement.
The news and usSo, let’s return to this question: What does the Sushant Singh Rajput case reveal about us?
It’s a vile but immensely sustainable, and successful, ecosystem, and I reached out to Alt News’ Pratik Sinha to learn more. Alt News has largely kept away from reporting on the news coverage of Rajput’s death.
As Sinha said: “I can bust facts, not gossip.”
News has now entered the realm of gossip, Sinha said, which is rooted in “mudslinging and rumour-mongering”. “Gossip is addictive. I don’t know what to bust in this bizarre case...Initially it looked like this incident was used as a campaign strategy for the upcoming Bihar election, but right now? It has somehow gained a life of its own. Where should one draw the line between freedom of speech and freedom of life?”
Sinha described the viral nature of this “news” as “coordinated inauthentic behaviour”.
A coordinate effort at hate often has two motives, financial or political. In the circus surrounding Rajput’s death, it’s impossible to pinpoint either with clarity. For the many young people involved, Sinha said, being able to earn instant recognition is motive enough.
“For example, maybe for this boy Dheeraj, if not for this case he might not have had women coming up and talking to him,” he said. “Now this may seem frivolous but for him, this must be life-changing.”
What forms a narrative, Sinha explained, is the size of the body that sustains it. Leading channels like Republic and Zee News serve up content that is religiously shared by these Facebook pages. So, who is the trigger: the public, or the news? Has social media ensured that if there’s enough public outrage, news organisations will have to take notice? Or do news channels, in their race for TRPs, produce content tailormade to appeal to the nation’s imagination?
It’s a chicken-and-egg situation, so it’s impossible to accurately answer.
For those without financial or political ambitions, this case seems to have given them a sense of purpose, or “social currency”, as Sinha called it. Dheeraj told me that apart from support, he also receives threats from Shahrukh Khan or Aamir Khan fans. Does that scare him? He immediately and excitedly replied, “No, no, not at all. Maybe it will be good if something big happens with me.”
When it comes to news channels, no matter what came first, media houses ensured that the story stayed alive. In the last month alone, there were four child rapes in New Delhi and a rise in caste- and gender-based violence in Uttar Pradesh. The economy is down, the unemployment rate is up, floods and monsoons have displaced thousands, and the ongoing pandemic claims hundreds of lives every day.
Yet all of this takes a backseat when compared to the Rajput case. Has the case become a distraction from the very real social and cultural fears that we face? As Orwell once said, “Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban.”
On Facebook allowing such content to thrive, Sinha said: “Content moderation is most often a business decision. If you take down a post or page that has over one lakh followers, then it means you lose that many eyeballs, which then means you lose that many people looking at advertisements. And that’s where the money flows in for these platforms. So most often, these policies are only written down, not implemented.”
In the last decade, two media trials stand out: the Aarushi murder case and the death of Sunanda Pushkar. Neither found a satisfying judicial conclusion. Trials by the media don’t happen impulsively, Sinha pointed out. “Every day, we scratch our heads as to what is happening today. But it isn’t like we were fine yesterday or the day before, right?” he said.
And ultimately, no matter the outcome of the investigation into Sushant Singh Rajput’s death, the biggest reveal by the media is what this case has exposed when it comes to our society.
Arnav Binaykia, Anna Priyadarshini and Monica Dhanraj contributed research to this article.
2020.03.11 08:27 NesVier [REPOST]8M, the state of feminism in Spain, you should all be concerned: this is their endgame
2020.03.08 06:57 Nakalololo The Secret of the Thieves: A study of the Outlaws Refuges and the Thieves Guild
[As part of a seminar in economic sociology of illegal markets at the university, I had the opportunity to do a little research on the representation of illegal markets in the universe of The Elder Scrolls. Here is the version of this work rewritten by my character's hand.
If you are interested, you can consult the original OOC version here (in French): HOW DO ILLEGAL MARKET ACTORS IN THE OUTLAWS REFUGES OF THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE GAME BYPASS THE SECRET NATURE OF THESE MARKETS TO PRACTICE THEIR ACTIVITIES?
All of this work is based on theoretical concepts in social sciences. The bibliography can give you information on the authors and the researches involved.]
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« 1. Don't steal from the Thieves Guild. We rob the merchant lords, not each another.These rules are specific to a local organization, but there is reason to believe that they could be applied in other outlaws shelters claiming to belong to this « thieves guild ». Two clues let me think so. First, another passage from Nicolas' journal:
2. Don't kill on Thieves Guild business. Corpses can only be robbed once.
3. Don't take from the beggars. They're allies in the alleys, who hate the Guard more than we do. »
« Each town and city in the Empire has its own group of thieves. […] What if our distant cousins wore the same simple name like a mask?Nicolas explains in this journal his desire to have the name and the rules of his organization adopted by all the outlaws refuges on the continent. The current configuration of refuges and the popularity of the name « thieves guild » tell us that he could have done it. Another clue in favor of this adoption of the rules of the « thieves guild » is the use of common symbols between the various shelters scattered on the continent. We will come back to this in the section dealing with the deviant subculture of these refuges.
To get them to listen, we'll need a reputation. […] And if I'm right, if this works, we'll fool all Tamriel into thinking the Thieves Guild is everywhere, in every province. »
« Ilanadzeh the Fence: "This one does not understand: how could a hive of illegal activity continue to thrive under the very noses of the divine Tribunal?"Eldyme, smiling: "How, indeed?" »2The way Eldyme responds, smiling, could tell us that she knows more and that she may judge the question naive. Another clue, this time in the form of a written description of the outlaw refuge in the town of Orsinium (Orc town in the Wrothgar region), explains more clearly what mechanism would allow the refuge to keep at distance law enforcement:
« Even in a newly rebuilt city, a perfectly good cistern can be "forgotten" by the public works department if enough gold is placed in the right pockets. »3Here we have an implicit reference to a case of corruption of the public works department which would explain why it allows illegal activities to occur in the cistern in question.
2019.10.11 14:24 removalbot 10-11 12:24 - 'I apologize to the r/linux community in advance for bringing this discussion here. / [quote] Perhaps you shouldn't vote brigade my comments? The only reason you even know about this comment **at all** is because you 'fo...' by /u/thethrowaccount21 removed from /r/linux within 47-57min
I will report your anti Monero stuff (something you could call "toxic and aggressive") as targeted harassment.Perhaps you shouldn't vote brigade my comments? The only reason you even know about this comment at all is because you 'follow me' on reddit, so you check my comments and downvote brigade them when you don't like the information. Then you try to use the rules against me maliciously to get me banned for voicing my opinion like everyone else has the right to do.
[–]SamsungGalaxyPlayerKarma CC: 3278 XMR: 9323 24 ポイント 1年前And another from a brigading user trying to justify banning me for spreading information:
Commenting here for the record:
This is a delusional, meaningless comparison that ignores a significant amount of context. So much information is incorrect here that I strongly encourage any potential reader to use any other resource.
[–]wecando4star2 - 3 years account age. 300 - 1000 comment karma. 11 ポイント 1年前My article was extremely fair and was not at all 'recycled' since I wrote it on the fly that very same day. So you're LYING when you say below that I don't have any evidence. This is the cynicism of the Monero community, flenst thinks that because the readers here are ignorant of our history, that he can misrepresent it to his liking and not get caught out.
This guy should be banned from the sub.
Not only is he posting an unfair, pointless, junk and recycled an article, but is then making claims that his post was "downvote brigaded by XMR maximalists"
Accusing, without any evidenceI have plenty of evidence and have proven that your community is vote-brigading my comments and threads many times. You accusing me of targeted harassment, when your community created sockpuppets of me to follow me around and impersonate me on reddit, you personally stalk my comments across subreddits and vote brigade my comments. Nice try at poisoning the well, but the people reading are not stupid....
wackyD1982 1 ポイント 15時間前Here's a member of your community threatening me with violence
LOL the trollero dash-downvote brigade is out in full swing here! xD
The monero community is pathologically vitriolic, especially towards anything dash related. I guess it speaks much about a coin (monero) that is aimed for nefarious uses (dark markets).
[–]MarchewkaCzerwona 1 ポイント 20時間前Members of the monero community being BANNED for impersonating me, following me around and harassing me (which is how you know flenst is projecting his behavior onto me as a deflection tactic): [link]15
To be honest mate, look for some quality time off. Whether you are right or wrong, take some holiday to recharge battery. It is all good fun, but I wouldn't like to be even partially responsible for anything bad happening to you.
This is advice from bloke who usually doesn't agree with anything you say, but seriously and honestly, think of yourself a little bit and take care.
[–]thethrowaccount21 -4 ポイント *Someone else accusing you of doxxing them and impersonating them:
This person is an imposter of me, just you guys know. The plan is apparently to say things that resemble about 90% of the things that I would say (check my post history, you'll get the idea), while using the 10% to cause angst between me and other crypto communities.
[–]Kain_niaK 2 ポイント
Monero is scary shit.
[–]Kain_niaK 2 ポイント
/BeijingBitcoins could you look in to this?
from BeijingBitcoins via /btc sent 8時間前
Thanks for letting us know (and /Kain_niak for tagging me). We don't allow imposter accounts in here, he is banned.
2die4OG が 5ヶ月前 * 投稿Here [link]17
So in monero tele someone is trying to impersonate me
Team Monero and myself have some bad blood due to my investment in another coin.
I had asked the admins to ban the impostor rather then ban the impostor they kicked me for 24 hours and left the impostor in the tele.
Team Monero admins and team members have also doxxed me on multiple occasions.
Now they have decided to impersonate me.
You could take the other route and just participate in a subreddit without trying to discredit Monero at the same time. Bringing cryptocurrency tribalism into the linux subreddit won't end well.You could take the other route and stop vote brigading my comments down because you're mad that I exposed your coin as having weak privacy. Like in this viral btc thread:
2019.09.27 01:06 ryu289 Why are homophobes willing to make up shit about homosexuals?
Kosilek is serving life in a men’s prison for strangling her wife, Cheryl Kosilek, to death soon after she began to transition from her male identity in 1990.[That’s right, her MALE identity! So both of these queers are men and one of them killed the other, before deciding to falsely pose as a woman as well!!!!]No, no, he misread the situation. They were talking about this person transitioning, not his wife: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Kosilek
A court has overturned the demand that American tax-payers fund a sex-change operation for a prison inmate. We hope this is a sign of the winds of change blowing across America, The madness of the LGBT era could be on the way out. But just listen to this story and how crazy the queers are. Robert Kosilek murdered his “wife” who was really a man, now pretends he is a woman too… VGB says “transgender” is a fraud. It is not a medical treatment and the taxpayer should never have to pay for it, even for a law-abiding citizen, let alone a vicious murderer. In fact doctors should be banned from carrying out such unnecessary operations. Robert Kosilek is mad and crazy queers should not be making our lawsRight...because a) this guy killed in sel defense & b) https://web.archive.org/web/20180902070724/https://genderanalysis.net/2018/01/evidence-of-health-benefits-of-medical-transition-gender-dysphoria-body-image-sexual-functioning-and-quality-of-life/
There can be no doubt about the guilt of Shrien Dewani after CCTV footage showed him in a hotel talking to the man later convicted of murdering his wife Annie. And there can be no doubt about his motives. Shrien Dewani was a homosexual who should never have married this poor girl in the first place. He paid assassins in South Africa to murder her in 2010 so that he could go on with his life of deviance and revolting perversion.Except the CCTV footage was doctored: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Anni_Dewani
VGB says: it will be a shame on South Africa if this man is acquitted. He is as guilty as hell and Annie Dewani was a VICTIM OF GAY BULLYING.And off course it wasn't the case here.
As so often QUEERS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER.
Now just think about this. Why would they drive all the way out there to ask him that? It looks to me as if John West must have known Evans and may even have been one of his previous “clients”. It was not likely he would proposition a random stranger in the countryside. But West was not in the mood. Maybe he was homosexual, or had been, but he did not want to pay for any services at that moment.Maybe he had no money. Maybe Evans asked too much.Even though two were married with wives...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_John_Alan_West
VGB says: Hard to feel sorry for them isn’t it? If you were a member of John West’s family you would not be weeping for these two revolting thugs. Whether or not he was a fellow-homosexual (and the fact that he was found without his trousers suggests that he may have been) this was a callous and cowardly murder. Looks like one more example of how queers bully everyone including each other.
LGBTs perpetrate millions of acts of harm and violence in society, constantly, mostly with impunity.From the study he uses...
Typically, heterosexual victims do not report abuse to the police because: (a) they do not believe the police will help; (b) they fear retaliation; (c) they do not want to get abusers in trouble; and (d) they think it is a private matter (Greenfield & Rand, 1998). Same-sex battering victims face additional obstacles to reporting with the threat of “outing” or making the lesbian and gay victims’ sexual orientation known to the public (Kuehnle & Sullivan, 2003). In addition, the gay community distrusts the police (Kirby, 1994; Letellier, 1994, Reed, 1989). Reed (1989) reported that victims of same-sex battering were both physically and verbally re-victimized by the police.And later on...
Recent reviews suggest that the prevalence of IPV in same-sex couples is as high as the prevalence of IPV for women in opposite-sex relationships:He cannot read apparently...
However, there are other studies that show something very interesting: a significant percentage of the women who have had relationships with both sexes started out having heterosexual relationships. Then they suffered violence. Then they turned to women. Isn’t it quite reasonable to assume the experience of violence they had with a man impacted their psychology to deform it towards wanting to be with a woman as perhaps what they would think is a non-violent partner?So most ipv comes from opposite sex partners? Makes sense: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29683080
The two black girls were not taken in by his false eyelashes, make-up and high heels, they saw at once he was a man, with stubble, however mixed-up he was about it, and they resented the way he had been behaving in the restaurant. They were there with their boyfriends and they accused Polis of staring at their men and trying to pick them up.Wait...so they were jealous girlfriends? Let's see the police report...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_of_Chrissy_Lee_Polis
said that she was going to use a restroom, when a female individual spat in her face. Then she and another female person started attacking Polis.Ah...they followed her in...
What was not reported in the press was that Polis had a criminal record for attacking other people. In September 2006 in Baltimore he was charged with assaulting a woman called Samantha Stockman. The defence managed to get him acquitted. Again in 2008, Polis was arrested for beating up elderly man and this time he was convicted, but by means of plea bargaining the charge was reduced to “disorderly conduct” with a minimum sentence. He was actually a prostitute and a junkie, resorting to mugging when he could not pay for his drugs any other way. He never spent more than a few weeks in prisonWhere did you get this? Your links show she was only guilty of disorderly conduct...and cops are biased against trans people. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/FailingToProtectAndServe_FullReport.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7ksrO5f3kAhXjkOAKHS6cBmoQFjABegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0f71MalnjvsPxwHEDnEtvL
The “gay” media is always making out that homosexuals and transsexuals are victims. No way – the truth is that they bully other people. Transsexuals get into violent situations because they behave in anti-social, unacceptable ways and violate the bounds of decency.Like which to use the bathroom that matches their identity?
Stupid media like Wikipedia and Huffington Post talked about it as if Polis really was a woman, rather than being a disturbed person with delusions.Transgender isn't a delusion: https://web.archive.org/web/20180902070724/https://genderanalysis.net/2018/01/evidence-of-health-benefits-of-medical-transition-gender-dysphoria-body-image-sexual-functioning-and-quality-of-life/
You thought a Health Commissioner would be a responsible, caring person who did not take risks? Not when they are queer. Here is one who lied about having HIV and passed on the disease to two other men on the queer pickup circuit. VGB says “My, my, they are such nice people!”Homophobes are illiterate apparently. Oh and he should ask why there is a heterosexual epidemic of aids in Russia. https://www.reddit.com/askgaybros/comments/cc3gnv/how_do_you_prove_that_aids_is_not_a_gay_disease/?
A San Francisco judge in 2003 found insufficient evidence to support charges that a former San Francisco health commissioner had intentionally infected sexual partners with the virus that causes AIDS.
But Hill’s attorney, Peter Fitzpatrick, argued in court papers and before Tsenin that there was not enough evidence to show his client had intended to infect anyone. He said that the contacts between Hill and the two alleged victims, Thomas Lister andChristopher M., were “normal relationships.” [ As normal as hell. ]As in no gay sex?
VGB: Here we go again. “Waa, waa, waa, waa!” “I can’t have my way so I’m going to scream and yell and beat my head on the floor until you give in.” Oh please, spare us your lame ass “born this way” mantra. Enough is enough. Go back to your closet, leave the queerness in there then you step out and get a damn life!So you give special rights and privileges for straight couples only in violation of the first and 14th amendments?
VGB: Funniest damn things I’ve read in quite a while. Seems that if anyone mocks queer marriage, the queers get all testy and pissy about it. Well, hell, they mock real marriage (one man, one woman) all the time so I see no problem with a little ribbing here. Rub in in guys, the queers deserve to see their own bullshitYou mean mock how homosexuals are treated like second class citizens and fight for equal rights?
VGB: Bullying Prevention Month Mayor? Where the hell is your brain carpet muncher? Your head must be between some carpet munchers legs. No wonder you can’t f’ing think straight. How in the hell did you even get elected witch? Oh, right, all the queers voted for your sorry ass. It figures. Houston TX is in big trouble with you around.Again...http://addictinginfo.com/2015/01/13/anti-lgbt-christian-pastors-fight-houston-equal-rights-ordinance-with-fake-petition-signatures
VGB: Yep, no slippery slope here. Pedophiles now think they have to have special rights. Who’s next….the one’s out screwing and being screwed by animals? Would not surprise me in the least.This is true: https://psmag.com/social-justice/facing-disturbing-truths-about-pedophilia-could-help-us-keep-kids-safer
Margo Kaplan, who teaches law at Rutgers University, used The New York Times as a platform to opine about the stigma pedophilia carries. The stigma, she laments, makes it difficult for adults with sexual attractions to children to get help
VGB: Poor widdle queers….always a victim…like the dumb nigers in Ferguson that caused all the problems. They were not the victims….they were the victimizers just the queers.Look who's talking? https://www.reddit.com/skeptic/comments/byhd2l/homophobes_dont_belive_in_sourcing_their_claims/ Poor Christains...
VGB: Yet another Gay Rights Activist did it all for the sake of raping little boys. This is from WinteryKnight who’s research broke it that Mark Newton and Peter Truong (along with the Quadrant) were Gay Rights activists campaigning for gay marriage “for the sole purpose of Sexual Exploitation [of little boys]” to quote QLD Police Task Force Argos… Be sure to see all the MSM links he cites on his blogs. Will update with pictures shortly! Done!https://fox17.com/news/local/records-tennessee-mom-who-killed-4-adopted-children-raised-kids-alone-for-11-years Sigh: http://homoresponse.blogspot.com/2011/05/countering-heterosexist-arguments.html#11 https://www.newsweek.com/anti-gay-preacher-stuns-congregation-confesses-molesting-underage-boy-1447795 https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/03/31/anti-gay-pastor-charged-with-molesting-8-kids-telling-them-to-sit-on-his-face/ https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/22/christian-couple-that-ran-gay-conversion-camps-arrested-for-child-trafficking/ https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/07/anti-gay-alabama-pastor-arrested-after-admitting-he-molested-underage-boys/ https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/21/pastor-gets-13-years-on-charges-that-he-sexually-abused-kids-impregnated-teen/ https://www.queerty.com/antigay-priest-accused-sex-abuse-uses-altar-boys-didnt-molest-show-innocence-20190722 https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/crime/former-centerville-pastor-arrested-again-on-charges-of-child-molestation/93-d9b46abc-3d7f-45ed-8f54-620bef2fa7ec
Yet again, a member of the glbt community utterly destroys a safe haven for children, and gives the phrase "tickle me Elmo," a whole new and disgusting meaning. This homophile, Kevin Clash, has admitted to sexual contact with a 16-year-old boy when he was 45!!Wrong again: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/elmo-puppeteer-kevin-clash-cleared-698645 https://abcnews.go.com/US/elmo-accuser-recants-allegations-underage-sex-kevin-clash/story?id=17710758
This commercial is so quick, concise, and to-the-point that the homofascists already hate it. LOL!By using a man in drag as a steryotype? https://www.reddit.com/transpassing/
This is what happens when sexual sanity is abandoned. First, he doesn't want to be a man anymore. Now he wants to create a harem of little girls. And, before I get hate emails. I know that not all "transgendered" men want to molest children. Click here for the full story.The person he is talking about isn't even a pedophile: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/john-mark-karr-man-claimed-kill-jonbenet-ramsey-resurfaces-time-woman-article-1.180468
I love statistics because they enable me to speak accurately. This number, 99.93%, is a cherished piece of information for me.Where did you get your stat? https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943
OVER 99.9% of us are born male or female. That's it people. That's science. That's reality. The glbt community hates the reality of the Word of God, and now, science. Dear member and supporter of the glbt community... Snap out of it.
We're approaching the tenth anniversary (Sept.26th) of the murder of Jesse Dirkhising. This young boy was held hostage and repeatedly raped by a pair of gay men and died as a result of their raping him, yet his death received less than one percent of the coverage that the death of Matthew Shepard did. It's clear to me that the mainstream media didn't want to appear "homophobic" by shining the light of truth on this child's death. Amazing. The GLBT community is so feared by the mainstream media that two homosexual men can literally rape a young boy to death and be ignored by mainstream (ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC) news sources. This is the type of injustice that empowers me, the rape of this young boy.Guess what pedophila has nothing to do with homosexuality! http://homoresponse.blogspot.com/2011/05/countering-heterosexist-arguments.html#11 bishop-accountability.org/news2007/05_06/2007_06_29_Pietrzyk_HomosexualityAnd.htm
What you see in this picture is a man who decided he wanted to be a woman. After a series of cosmetic operations and silicone injections this is the result. Vile, vile vile. Makes you want to run a mile."Look here moron: https://www.reddit.com/transpassing/
Mark Smout of England, UK, is a horrible internet troll and oh by the way he is “gay”. His way of expressing himself is to send people delightful snapshots of his own penis, like the one below.Except it came from here: https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiuX4V9cJ08DYUfmycdnBRxNMut-bbHKh9VptHtML33e6KBA3SZrv1yUbvJEbKqiMkgzvghtqBlEXEg5nspBizHxkIcVGT89oitIaB_1e9fIY0KIKHfsq5kDRV6JVs4GLJtDIFbGC13GyLFEITqg7bv2KU2662VdJmmyrIGAxYdkE3VDb5Y7qlLcPT-o5QcURfwbmQKsOgOMsUe7GOd_1aSbZkEsXa5pBQhdUFnQ0PwwuAGmdj46-W5JajC1Hwfcj0nM1I0bBGtksglU7YAJ5nGrrcFycCPaCRASxgXzafYSSjM8YWC10gB9bd9qQ0fVgMtRiarD_12iLhWyGovUkLNzKHFgjFvsw
2019.03.02 21:35 the_third_sourcerer [SOLVED] 58 year old arrested on 1995 rape case of a 8 year old (Göteborg, Sweden)
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2017.05.25 03:30 The_Brutally_Honest Welcome to the March for Net Neutrality!
"Net Neutrality" prevents Internet providers like Verizon and Comcast from dictating the kinds of content you're able to access online. Instead, Internet providers have to treat all traffic sources equally. Net Neutrality is enforced by the Federal Communications Commission, or FCC.Kurzgesagt's Explanation
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2016.03.16 17:43 M_Tootles (Spoilers Everything) Aerys's Lovers Die, Septa Scolera, Taena, Marei, Olenna, Maegor, Daario? - Mega-Tinfoil Essay Part 3 of 3
"Prince Rhaegar married Elia of Dorne, not Cersei Lannister of Casterly Rock. So it would seem [tPoD] won that tilt [against Tywin]."
"She thought so," Prince Oberyn agreed, "but [Tywin] is not a man to forget such slights. (SOS Tyr X)
[Caleotte's] face was so smooth and fat that it was hard to tell his age, but he had been here before the captain [Hotah], had even served the prince's mother. (tCoG)
Dorne had seemed a queer place to him as well when first he came here with his own princess, many years ago. (tW)
Not long after, in a change of heart, Aerys announced that Jaehaerys had been poisoned by his own mistress, the pretty young daughter of one of his household knights. The king had the girl and all her kin tortured to death. (TWOIAF)
There was a girl I wished to marry, the younger daughter of a petty lord, but I was my father's thirdborn son and had neither land nor wealth to offer her... only a sword, a horse, a shield.
They're all poisoners, these Dornish. (DWD KB)
Blood feud and rebellion would surely have followed Lord Edgar's death [at OM's hands], had not her father [DM] acted at once. The Red Viper went to Oldtown, thence across to the narrow sea to Lys, though none dared call it exile. And in due time, Quentyn was given to Lord Anders to foster as a sign of trust. (WOW Ari I)
King Aerys fasted for a fortnight and made a walk of repentance across the city to the Great Sept, to pray with the High Septon. On his return, His Grace announced that henceforth he would sleep only with his lawful wife, Queen Rhaella. If the chronicles can be believed, Aerys remained true to this vow, losing all interest in the charms of women from that day in 275 AC.
Septa Unella stood to her right, Septa Moelle to her left, Septa Scolera behind her. If the queen should bolt or balk, the three hags would drag her back inside, and this time they would see to it that she never left her cell. (DWD C II)
Hag: An old woman considered to be ugly or frightening; an unpleasant or ugly old woman; an ugly or slatternly old woman; a witch or sorceress.
"Was there a trial?" [Cersei asked.]
"Soon," said Septa Scolera, "but her brother—"
"Hush." Septa Unella turned to glare back over her shoulder at Scolera. "You chatter too much, you foolish old woman. It is not for us to speak of such things." (DWD C I)
If the gods were good, the wrinkled old cunt might crash into Septa Unella and take her down with her. (DWD C I)
Septa Unella and Septa Moelle kept pace with her, with Septa Scolera scurrying behind, ringing a bell. "Shame," the old hag called, "shame upon the sinner, shame, shame." (DWD C II)
Septa Scolera was thick-waisted and short, with heavy breasts, olive skin, and a sour smell to her, like milk on the verge of going bad. (DWD C I)
Under a bleached white vest, [Jorah] was bare-chested, skin reddened by the sun. (GOT D VIII)
Bonus Crackpot: Who is Septa Mordane, originally? There are no "similarly patterned" first names, which makes me wonder whether it's an assumed name. Morgarth is as close as any. House Jordayne rhymes, and points to Dorne. Mors Martell is the founder of House Nymeros-Martell. "Dane" is a homonym for Dayne. Morgarth is a fake name. The names Morgarth and Mordane each put Mor[s] Martell next to Arth[ur] Da[y]ne. Sansa gets her love of (Dorne-associated) lemon cakes from somewhere. If Mordane is a "Stony" Dornish operator, her taking refuge with Scolera in the Sept of Baelor as Septa Moelle may have an interesting explanation, as might her two curious absences from court in AGOT. And her presence in Winterfell is probably not coincidental. She is likely sent by someone with knowledge that Jon Snow is (close Martell ally) Ashara Dayne's son. Okay, fine, ignore that last bit if you must.
"Cersei promised Elia to show you to us. The day before we were to sail, whilst my mother and your father were closeted together, she and Jaime took us down to your nursery." (SOS Ty V)
"'Everyone says he's like to die soon. He shouldn't even have lived this long.'" (SOS Ty V)
"You did have a monstrous great voice, I must grant you that. You would wail for hours, and nothing would quiet you but a woman's teat."
That night the queen summoned Lady Merryweather to her bedchamber. "Will you take a cup of wine?" she asked her.
"A small one." The Myrish woman laughed. "A big one." (FFC IV)
Round ripe breasts with their huge dark nipples. (SK)Taena actually answers that until now much-laughed-at question!
Was there ever a woman with nipples so large or so responsive? (SK)
Her breasts were larger than the queen's and tipped with huge nipples, black as horn....
Cersei cupped [Taena's] breast. Softly at first, hardly touching, feeling the warmth of it beneath her palm, the skin as smooth as satin. She gave it a gentle squeeze, then ran her thumbnail lightly across the big dark nipple, back and forth and back and forth until she felt it stiffen.... There was no pleasure in it, not for her. For Taena, yes. Her nipples were two black diamonds, her sex slick and steamy. (FFC C IV)
""We have Dornish red and Arbor gold, and a fine sweet hippocras from Highgarden."
"The gold, I think. I find Dornish wines as sour as the Dornish." As Merryweather filled her cup, Cersei said, "I suppose we had as well begin with them." (FFC C IV)
"Dorne still has friends at court. Friends who tell us things we were not meant to know. This invitation Cersei sent us is a ruse. Trystane is never meant to reach King's Landing." (DWD The Watcher)
"Your father proposed the match," Lady Genna told [Cersei], "but Aerys refused to hear of it. 'You are my most able servant, Tywin,' the king said, 'but a man does not marry his heir to his servant's daughter.'" (FFC C V)
She was short, squat, and warty, with pebbly greenish jowls. Her teeth were gone and her dugs hung down to her knees. You could smell sickness on her if you stood too close, and when she spoke her breath was strange and strong and foul. (FFC C VIII)The parallels -- short, squat, heavy breasts, odor of sickness, to say nothing of QM being "Frog" as well -- seem clear. For now, I read this as a "mere" literary allusion: the two women are Cersei's black and white angels, so to speak. Even c.300, with Cersei half-mad and fucking up everything, tPoD feels personal empathy for her despite being a political foe, whereas Maggy is a Lannister ally yet despises Cersei. At least that's my present reading. But Maggy may make another appearance in...
"Father will never consent," Jaime objected.
"The king won't ask him. And once it's done, Father can't object, not openly...."
"But," Jaime said, "there's Casterly Rock..."
"Is it a rock you want? Or me?"
He remembered that night as if it were yesterday. They spent it in an old inn on Eel Alley, well away from watchful eyes. Cersei had come to him dressed as a simple serving wench, which somehow excited him all the more. Jaime had never seen her more passionate. Every time he went to sleep, she woke him again. By morning Casterly Rock seemed a small price to pay to be near her always. He gave his consent, and Cersei promised to do the rest. (SOS Jai II)
Whatever else one might say about [Cersei], she did know how to make men love her when she cared enough to try. (FFC Ja II)
A moon's turn later, a royal raven arrived at Casterly Rock to inform him that he had been chosen for the Kingsguard. He was commanded to present himself to the king during the great tourney at Harrenhal to say his vows and don his cloak. (SOS Jai II)
Marei was a cool, pale, delicate girl Tyrion had noticed once or twice. Green eyes and porcelain skin, long straight silvery hair, very lovely, but too solemn by half. (COK Ty VII)
...had thrown herself from a tower soon after, mad with grief for the child she had lost, and perhaps for the man who had dishonored her at Harrenhal as well.
If I had unhorsed Rhaegar and crowned Ashara queen of love and beauty, might she have looked to me instead of Stark? (DWD KB)
"I had women too, and there I did disgrace myself, for some I took by force."
I swore no oath to Dorne, Ser Barristan told himself. But Lewyn Martell had been his Sworn Brother, back in the days when the bonds between the Kingsguard still went deep. I could not help Prince Lewyn on the Trident, but I can help his nephew now. (DK)
Tyrion chose a cask of strongwine marked as the private stock of Lord Runceford Redwyne, the grandfather of the present Lord of the Arbor. (DWD Tyr I)
a musty pair of burgundy breeches and a blue velvet doublet lined with cloth-of-gold.
2012.08.09 05:54 tabledresser [Table] IAmA norwegian police officer AMA
|Do you have long black hair and listen to Death Metal?||I did, actually. Not anymore though. Didn´t look to good and kept me a virgin for some years.|
|Hahahahahaha good one what,s your favorite band ?||Metallica had me for a good couple of years, before it got harder. Don´t remember a lot of band names, sorry. But it´s mostly radio now. I´m a pathetic sell-out.|
|What is the most often committed crime in Norway?||Hard for me to says as i am not a leader, but from street level you see a lot of shoplifting, drug related crime, break-ins, and weekend tomfoolery. Norwegians tend to drink way too much, and i alwys swear not to drink too much to myself. But i forget...|
|Come to Finland, we'll see who drinks too much.||Don´t enter contests i know i wont´t win. I´d love to come visit, but i´d only lose. The farther north you get, the better people are at drinking it seems.|
|I wish to visit Norway within a couple of years either by car or motorcycle, these questions might help me save some money ;)||Do come over!|
|Are the speeding tickets expensive in Norway? In NL I had to pay €93 for 9 km/h over the limit on the highway in comparison.||First of all, bring extra money for food as a road side diner will set you back about 30usd for a steak. And then there´s the drinks (don´t drink and drive by the way).|
|What kind of speed checks are actively used and how common are these used (laser guns? speeding camera's?)||Speeding is excessively expensive over here. (I don´t work traffic and i don´t have a lot of interest in it, and as i tend not to ticket people for things i do myself). But it can go as high as 1000eur for tickets (and propably more) before you loose your license. And if you do several things at once, it gets piled on top. IE if you run a red light and speeding while doing it it would be 4000nok+2000nok (biggest fine first, then half of every ticket after that gets added on).|
|What's the biggest fine you've had to write so far and what crime was it for?||I would worry about lasers and civilian cars. Civilian cars most have video now, but some only do an average check (distance:time)-(good margin of error safety). If you get clocked at, say, 70 in a 50 zone in an average check you probably were doing about 80-85 on your speedometer.|
|Thanks for the IAMA, very interesting so far :)||I think i crossed the 10000nok marker on a guy who was driving well above limit in a bus lane in rush hour. Those arrogant guys pisses me off privately and its actually three offenses, not two (driving in bus lane, speeding, passing on the right hand side (not legal fyi)). Felt good cause he was actually an arrognt bastard with a VERY important life and a Mazda MX5.|
|How was it to work on that day last summer when Breivik did what he did? What did you do that day? How was the feeling among the colleagues?||It was a very sad day. Interrupted my vacation and drove in. Cant really say what i did that day specifically as i could be identified. But i did guard duty for the first 24 hours. Oslo centre has never been so quiet. Eery. And in the aftermath of things i´ve done my best to stay off the case. I want as little to do with that man as possible, although it might had been a good career move to do otherwise. Edit: Among colleagues there were a lot of rumors, two guys arrested and so forth (not fourth!). We usually have a pretty laid- back attitude to things and joke around. This did not happen a lot 22.07.12.|
|How do you view marijuana as a substance being on the enforcing side of the law? Everyone knows it is way less harmful for you than drinking but yet it is is still globally scrutinized. With the way things are moving here in Canada and around the US, I believe legalization is the way forward. Hell, the entire war on drugs has failed, what do you think?||This is a question i face almost every day doing what i do. As an official i have to say no, but my experience have taught me to not see everything in black and white. This might be a long one... I´ve grown up around a lot of people doing way too much weed/ hash and seen what this drug can do to you. On the other hand, anyone drinking 6-12 beers every day would be in a similar or worse state, so in this context its not much worse. But cannabis does impact your psyche in a somewhat different manner than alcohol. I´ve had friends with shotguns in their mouths because of this. But not everyone ends up this way. I think drug use, especially at a young age is harmful, but more a symptom of a problem then the problem itself. But the route from soft drugs to hard drugs is sometimes very short. What i see the most of is weed-to-pills and weed-to-coke. But if you´re 16 and doing coke, something might be seriously wrong in your home or a lack of this. I think we could try prescribing weed and heroin, but not to people under 18. I think the war is failing, there will always be supply, but we can do something about demand. But thats also a political thing. Sorry if i come across confused. I sometimes am.|
|I´ve had friends with shotguns in their mouths because of this. Not because of cannabis no, must have been either a mental condition or additional drugs used. Cannabis alone do not have any such impact on your psyche!||It seems to me it can be a trigger in some cases. Underlying mental diseases and the likes. But i´m no doctor and i knew this guy well. Nothing else then cannabis, but way too much. Can´t prove it, but i believe him. Your choice if you´ll believe me. Moderation, man.|
|What I meant was that people won't get in the situation to buy awful shit as often when you legalise the less-awful shit and sell it properly. Sell it like a bar and have the "bartendeweedtender" pay attention that you don't buy too much and go out stoned out of your ass. ABout the rohypnol, are you sure those people don't use anything anymore? Maybe they were taking rohypnol because it was easier or whatever. Or on the black market and hide it because it's now illegal?||Rohypnol got replaced with other pills. And we tend to find something of everything thats out there. So when i say they´re gone, i think they´re gone. And i like the idea of supervised, controlled substance use, but in my mind it´s utopia. Look how drunk we get in bars, and they´re supposed to limit our drinking. I don´t think we have the self control.|
|Have you met police officers from other countries with different approaches to law enforcement or levels of crime? Are they different types of people?||Yes i have been to the US and spent some time with brothers there. We do have something of a common mentality, but how work is done is so different. I never expect the next guy to stab or shoot me, and i think we´re a lot less paranoid here in Norway. But i always try to stay safe for me, my family and my partner(s). But if you´re caught doing something here, the sentence won´t be too long and i think that makes criminals a lot less desperate. I like to think we dont have as much corruption as other countries as we do get an ok paycheck.|
|"But if you´re caught doing something here, the sentence won´t be too long and i think that makes criminals a lot less desperate" Although im norwegian myself, I think that is a very good point.||Upvote to you sir!|
|So you consider them as brothers? In the US there is a common perceptionthat the " cop blue wall" will do whatever they need to(legal or not), to protect themselves and each other. Does this eixst with you?||We do have that sense of camaraderie, but being from Norway we always turn things down a couple of notches. Honesty is better then dishonesty. I myself have been to Internal Affairs several times, both as a suspect and a witness. Lying won´t get you nowhere. Be honest and the truth will do the rest. We get a lot of crazy/ psychiatric people reporting us for the strangest things. Not all crazy though.|
|As a Norwegian living in the US, I am pretty horrified by US police and their lack of education. Most go through a 10-12 weeks training before they are turned loose on the population. Can you tell us what you had to go through of education and training in order to become a police officer?||Our training differs immensely. We go to school for 3 years (law, language, computers, sociology, CSI, PE, Arrest techniques. We only do about 6 weeks of weapons training in camps. We also have a pretty good selection program before you get into the academy.|
|Have you been out looking for Sigrid Giskegjerde Schjetne? I live at Skullerud, just moved here from the middle of Oslo. Creepy welcome to the neighborhood :(||We've been working hard at this ever since saturday. Were really trying our best, but the amount of volunteers showing up is mindblowing and very a great example of what makes norway a good place to live. But sometimes creepy, yes :-( Edit. Since sunday morning. Days keep blending these days and ita been a long one 2day.|
|I'm guessing you are of the same opinion as me, she's dead. I'm guessing it was premeditated (not the target but the event it self) and seeing as no evidence of the perp after all the police and volunteers he's planned somewhat and is intelligent enough not to panic or screw up (yet at least).||Well no one knows. Except the one(s) who did it. Everything seems a bit "bad", but people can survive the most incredible things. Hope she´s alive but sadly, hope is fading..|
|Thing is, statistically if an obductee os not found withint 48 hours the chance of the person being alive is extremely slim. So guess we have to hope the kidnapper(s) are traffickers instead...||Ouch lets not hope either. Statistics arent my strong side. But logic doesn´t give me hope.|
|South African here... Aren't you bored with the lack of real crime in your country? Closest I came to a "civilised" world was Denmark & Sweden.||Then you´d be blown away with Norway! Even less here.. Apart from last year we had as many murders as you do in a day. And a lot of them get solved (sadly not all though). The carzy thing is we do have a lot of weapons here per capita. I´d love to come visit just to get some perspective the other way ´round. I think all norwegians should count themselves lucky we´ve got oil and good friends. Not drink it all away and behave as we´re better than y´all.|
|From Vikings to the most peaceful people in the world. WTF.||Evolution? I´m gonna get blasted by some Ricky Gervais motherfucka for that one.|
|Apart from last year we had as many murders as you do in a day. What seems to be the profile of those cases? gang violence? passion crimes?||Some gang related, but the bulk seems to be domestic and/ or family. Knives for the most part. I don't like knives. But i´m no murder analyst...|
|What do you think about the stories you hear about American law enforcement?||Some of the stories are too hard to believe. But then i see the video tape. But that being said, it seems a lot is taken out of context. If you get creative following me around for a day, i´m sure i´d look like a proper asshole. Not that i´m the best cop there is.. I´m not.|
|Do you ever get to carry a gun?||Yes i do. We each have our own personal hk p30L 9mm. Pretty good actually. Spoken as a glock fan. Edit. Dont carry it around. Locked down in car and brought out for special occasions.|
|Special occasion?||Cans - yes Moose - seen one once and never dared look back. They are pretty damn big.|
|Shooting cans and mooseS?||But on a serious note, special calls and assignments require us to wear one, but for our own safety as well as the publics. I personally dont want to wear one all the time.|
|I just want to say I'm so happy that police don't carry around guns constantly around in the streets, I've been to other countries and I just feel so uneasy when there's police or military police with guns or automatics :S.||Glad you feel this way. Although i think it´s only a matter of a few years before we also do, this being an international world and travelling criminals are making it big. We´re not alone anymore.|
|Here in the US and Canada virtually all departments either issue a 12 gauge or assault rife for the cruiser. Does your department? Also, what car do you use?||Not all, but some. wont say too mach on this.|
|A guy breaks into your house but, you don't have a gun. How are you going to shoot him? Checkmate.||If he has a gun, surprise him, take his gun and explain to him what he did wrong. Norwegian style.|
|To an american that sounds crazzy. even here in australia police carry guns around :S why wouldnt you :S.||Top on my list is: don´t want to lose a fight and risk getting it pointed back at me. We really don´t come across that much that needs a weapon to be solved. You´d be surprised at how far talking could get you. A weapon on the hip would just come across as "offensive" to a lot of people up here i think. I´d like a tazer though. Just for work.|
|You scurred of Bullwinkle?||I get the comic reference, but not much more. Only had nrk (government channel) growing up. Different times. Make an LA Law joke and i´ll jump on the grenade!|
|So it's like like the armed offenders unit in the UK... What type of vehicle do you use?||Ment much, not mach before. Going a bit fast here for a non scholar. We´ve got units for most things yes. Some heavy duty guys capable of most things. And vehicles, patrol - MB Vitos (good for transports), Volvo V70 and VW Passat (better and fast movers), and then there´s older, crappier, newer, specialized ones and so on. But these three are the most common ones.|
|After seeing a a guy get tazered, I think I would rather get shot. I saw a guy get tazered during a riot; he shit himself, and was foaming from the mouth by the time he gave up.||Oh man, i really want to test a tazer on myself just to see how bad it really is. I´d pick shit in my pants over hole in my stomach anyday!|
|Link to upload.wikimedia.org.||That´ll scare me yes. they´re tall enough on all four feet.|
|As a civilian, I'm scared to death of those (undercover) Passats.||And maybe you should be :-) Keep checking that mirror for hints of blue..!|
|I've been around guns my entire life (American; Avid Hunter) and I think I would take a pistol round any day over a tazer. That's just me though... If I had to choose between buck shot and a tazer... I think I'd take shitting my pants as well.||If were talking about .22cal to the hind i might consider it. Just for bragging rights.|
|Is this a colleague you happen to know? :) Also, if you would be kind enough to share, were you on patrol the day of the bombings/shooting in Oslo and Utøya? Did your life get turned upside down in that moment? If you weren't on patrol/can't canswer; How has the political climate in Norway fared as a result of that incident?||Don´t know the guy but i´d taken a photo for myself before telling him! Punkd (ohh im getting old). I was on vacation like many others and rushed in to Oslo to do what i could. Not as much "turned" as "twisted". I had believed we would get hit someday, but not like this. Guess i was a little influenced by the media and society as well. As of climate and changes, seems to me like much is the same, though people in general tend to call in on a lot more suspicious activity. I dont think it´s abad thing, but paranoia should have it´s limits. But keep calling in! Do call 10 times more than you should then 1 time too little! Unless you´re a mental pacient with paranoid diagnosis. Please call your doctor first.|
|I'm a foreigner in norway, and I heard that if the police entered an armed war ( as in war with guns ) you can't use your guns unless you call the station for permission. Is this right? or was I being trolled :)||No troll. But there is a chain of order. If we´ve got time, we ask for permission from our police chief. BUt if some Johnny pulls out his gun in front of my car, i aint gonna call nobody, and thats ok.|
|Do your soccer referees always do such a bad job? signed, A Canadian.||Always. but i´m no soccer fan, thanks to our judges.|
|Were you at all involved in the investigation of the 2011 shootings? Know any victims? Thanks.||Did some Oslo guard duty in the aftermath. I knew Trond, the police officer. If he couldn´t stop him, no one could. Very suspicious guy and ex-boxer. Old school. RIP.|
|That must have been hard, I'm sorry. I heard he saved his son from the gunfire, at the cost of his own life. Courageous, too, apparently.||Very. All my respect to my fallen friend.|
|I'm Finnish. Can we be bros? Also, what do Norwegians think of our dear neighbour Sweden? I've visited Northern Norway twice, absolutely beautiful and a great place to go fishing!||Bros before ho´s. I think we all think that swedes are superior to us in style, hair and innovation. But we do have oil so why bother? And the fishing (i hear) is the best. I only started eating fish some years ago. Sushi goes down fast now!|
|In Finland there is ALWAYS some kind of rivalry... It's stupid but funny in a weird way.||Same here, especially in the force. Good for results. As long as no-one goes overboard :-)|
|Do you ever do anything that is against the law? Not talking about confessing murders here, but small crimes, like copying a car from the internet-type of stuff.||Hahaha I plead the fifth.|
|I will assume thats a solid yes ;)||Assume away. I´m pullin a Chapelle on this one.|
|I mean, I assume it's not called "pleading the Fifth," but in Norway do you have the right to decline to testify so as not to incriminate yourself? Related: Has a drunken tourist ever asked you to read them their Miranda rights?||Well we do get some random Americans and/ or movie geeks who tells us we should mirandize them. But those who know the name, surely must know the game!? But, yeah, a couple of years ago we actually started giving everyone their rights when arrested. It SHOULD be done, but sometimes people forget, and before interrogation you get everything read out to you.|
|Have you ever watched the TV show cops? What do you think of it?||Love it!! They act tough and deliver. A bit hands- on for my approach sometimes but people don´t want to lose in front og a camera i guess. I´m a bit baffled at how little communication goes on sometimes. How do they get information from people they don´t talk to and only fight with.|
|I´m a bit baffled at how little communication goes on sometimes. How do they get information from people they don´t talk to and only fight with. < You are probably referring to the LAPD... assault first, ask questions later!||Probably..|
|I think I saw a video where the Norweigan? police looked at a couple giving a public blowjob? Is that what you guys do? Do you guys encounter this a lot? Is Norway's sexual "culture" (more accepted? perhaps?) different than Canadian's/ North Americans? Are there more public nudity/ more sex crimes?||I think that one was finnish. Couldn´t load the subs so didn´t get it all. But they seemed like good police. Not so many "fun" nudes, more of the obese, alcoholic, stinking, perv nudes. Not so fun while there, but fun when your car is clean again and a good story has risen!|
|I'm from Denmark, so I reckon that the "Scandinavian" police might have quite a bit in common. What's your opinion on that f.ex. a 16 year old child, who rides a tuned moped (Lets say it does around 50), can get a 2000 DKK fine, when a full-grown man who does 200 km/h on a highway gets a quite similar fine?||It´s not in proportion. But 200kmh here would get you jail time. Kids need to be treated differently then adults. Respect and lenience are two key words.|
|Are the Norwegian girls as hot as they seem to the rest of the world?||Nodout. i´ve got me one so i´m happy :-) hope she is as well..|
|As said, not going to do it, got no reason to run :)||I´m glad. Don´t be a statistic! :-)|
|Any gypsy stories?||You wont believe it until you´ve smelled it. A lot can be said, but they are people, but not used to behave like us is some ways. Porta-pottys for instance. They dont shit in the hole for some reason.|
|Were you called when the massacre happened on the island of Utøya?||Not called, i called in.|
|Since cop shows are huge over here in america, what would you say is the craziest stereotypes of cops in Norway vs the ones in the USA ?||Hmmm... People don´t let me in on the stereotypes, guess it comes mostly behind my back. But lazy-no-good-doing-coffee-drinking-mustache-wearing-powerhouses are a thing of the past. Luckily. It´s a whole new breed now from 15 years ago. Those days where you beat and submissed into coercion are well and over with. I hope.|
|Do you look like this?||A bit more same-ish and have you seen jompa btw?|
|Actually saw him at the airport once, if I'm not horrible mistaken. (Could been someone looking like him, thou)||And now he´s gone...|
|Why are you guys not putting the RUSS in jail for me? I got egged and mad!||This is why i stay inside during may. And i don´t do overtime in may. Girls wanna kiss us so bad. And guys. Not that theres anything wrong with that!|
|Hehe, just realized I wanna be a cop, they wanna kiss you. giggles||If you can take the abuse, go for it!|
|What is your favorite thing about Norway? Something you think Norway is best in the world for.||Nature, forgiveness and community. Thats three, i know :-)|
|I think it's only when "the bad guy" is reported to have weapons themselves. Correct?||That might be one. But not the only one.|
|Everyone I ask has a different answer. I always like to have my swiss army knife with me. I never go a day without using it, whether I am working or not. In the UK the law is very clear: unless you have a reason (job, hobby etc.) you can only carry a knife 3 inches long or below, that folds away and does not lock. Anything else needs a reason. I seem to remember being a kid and a boyscout and knives were no big deal (this was not the city though). Can I be fined/arrested for a swiss army knife or Leatherman?||If you have beliveable cause. IE being a boyscout in uniform, being a carpenter, being on your way to do something that requires a knife. If you´re wearing a Leatherman in your belt, doing normal things and being a normal person, you could probably convince ME to not arrest you. But if you´re out on the town, drinking and in Oslo centre, you´d have a hard time convincing me. The size of the blade is not as important. It could be a nail clipper. If you stab someone with it, you´ll get charged with carrying a knifelike object, and its the same.|
|Takk for svar. I would not walk around the city with it (though I would have, out of ignorance, had I not checked on the web in case there were laws, turns out there were). It goes without saying stabbing someone is illegal and will cause an arrest, but don't you think it's a bit extreme arresting someone who might be walking in the park with their Leatherman in a pouch on their belt? Has it always been this way?||Park+Leatherman+normal guy. Wouldn´t even ask you about the Leatherman. Just talk and talk. You´d get sick of me in 10mins :-)|
|I figured that mostly. When we've had stabbings and people "saying they have guns and bullets" (only had a bullet..) you've been here pretty quickly. It's just that it seems we're sitting on druggies for 2 hours and then got to send them away. It's a bit weird :p.||Yes but you see the difference, right?|
|If you´re lying on top af a drug dealer with cuffs on it´s an unconveniece and a hassle.|
|If someone´s pulling knives and guns out, we´ll drop everything else!|
|But consider what other missions goes down on our lists if people lie like this. Someone might be beaten in their home, or killed by a drunk driver we could´ve caught...|
|Indeed. The norwegian police is way understaffed. Aren't you guys also mostly active during weekdays, and not weekend-evenings where most of the shit hit the fans aswell?||Seems to me like we´re best staffed on weekdays and in the daytime. But then again, i am not punching the time sheets. ALLTHOUGH - we do have money for overtime on weekends and we are a lot more officers out now than, say, 3 years ago.|
|Does anyone ever try to bribe you?||Nope. Guess i don´t look like the bribeing type of guy. People have with others though. They didn´t get away with it.|
|Have you ever arrested a member of a black metal band for burning down a church, stabbing someone repeatedly, or for committing any other true kvlt crimes?||No but i saw the burnt down church. I´m not yet too old for this shit.|
|Since one of the major cultural exports of Norway is Satanic Black Metal, do you have to deal with blasphemy often? Have you heard of Varg Vikernes? What are your views on Satanism?||Varg Vikernes is a sad, disillusioned man living i recluse on a farm writing books now. Blasphemy is not a big thing over here. Church and state got separated some years ago, and most norwegians are ok with that. If you are a satanist and don´t bother others that´s ok with me. Stabbing people repeatedly is not.|
|How much gun training have your received as a police officer? Do you feel that it is enough or did you wish there was more?||Much want more. We´re getting better, but also, training more means fewer of us on the streets (instructors and being off training). Constant dilemma.|
|What do you call yourselves Norweagians?||Grammar? Norwegians.|
|Did the Utoya shooting affect your job in any way? This could be from higher up (like changes in policies) or personal (want to do the job more/less). Do you believe in the Norwegian justice system (no life sentences)?||It made a huge impact. On all levels. The commission set to investigate our response will deliver its report on monday. We are all awaiting the conclusion(s) and i am sure there are a lot of things that could have been done better. But we did what we could without knowing what to expect. The media have gotten some things wrong. But i don´t know too much about everything that happened, most is just rumors at this stage. I´m very motivated to prevent things like this to happen again. We have to take care of everyone before they turn into monsters. The justice system here is close to foolproof in my eyes, but life sentence without parole should be a real alternative, not just a theory, as it is now (21years with option to extend). Some people just don´t belong in society. ABB being one of them.|
|What's better Norse Mythology or Greco-Roman?||Oh, man. I didn´t go to history high and i slept through college.|
|So what do you think about crime dramas like: The Killing, Beck, Wallander, Varg Veum etc?||Killing, Beck, Wallander - haven´t seen much of it. Varg Veum - how come these cases doesn´t get solved by the police? Man we are incompetent! PI get all the clues, and we none! The Wire though, gotta love it! Realistic as hells.|
|Varg Veum is not bad but I thought Forbrydelsen, Beck and Wallander were really good. Was going to ask if you were like Gunvald Larsson in Beck ;-) Link to www.youtube.com. Takk.||Haha You had me at "i fuck your wife every day". Priceless.|
|SO.. What station in Oslo are you situated at? Sentrum? Manglerud? An other?||I would say, but won´t. Our worlds not that big. But its one of the biggest.|
|OK. But answer me this: What kind of duty do you normally do?||I can say street level, but not "on the beat". I´ve grown tired of that part. I will get in trouble if someone sees some of my answers and finds out who i am. But i can satisfy any other curiosities you might have...?|
|Jeg er bare nyskjerrig ;) Only wondering because I know a lot of Oslo cops, most on op-central, though :D.||Det er lov :-) (it´s allowed) Cops are always nice to know! Most times :-)|
|Do you really hate crime and offenders, or you're working in police only for money?||None of the above sir!|
|Every crime has an offender, but every offender has his reasons (not all sane but..). Something that seems unbelievable at the time, might seem understandable given some insight (fyi I'm glad google autocorrect is with me today). But the exception here being 22.07.12 and terror in general. But then again i guess they have their own logic and "reason", and maybe not the best of families. We´re very left-ish up here. But politics is NOT my game! I just do what they say, and then moderate it a bit ;-)|
|Hei og takk for at du gjør en AMA! Var du på vakt under 22. Juli i Oslo? Hvordan opplever du tryggheten i Oslo som politimann, føler du deg trygg på jobb der? Hva er din verste opplevelse på vakt? Kjempe takk for at du gjør en AMA, hilsen en felles nordmann!||Tror jeg har svart på denne under. 22 juli topper nok værste-dag listen. Og takk!|
|What's the marijuana situation like in Norway? I was reading that there has been talk about decriminalizing? What are your thoughts, as a police officer?||I think i covered this in another post. Repost me if you want something more :-)|
|Do you smoke weed everyday?||No mr president.|
|Hva synes du om Harry Hole?||Stereotype number one, but a good guy with good skills. Love the books, haven´t read the last one sadly.|
|But seriously, what kind of research into Norwegian policing did Jo Nesbø actually do before writing the books?||Have no idea. But he isn´t too far off the chart. So i guess he has do a good deal.|
|Nå, jeg ville bare øve mitt norsk litt.||Nå, jeg ville bare øve på norsken min litt. You stand corrected. But my english is poorer then your norwegian so...|
2012.04.18 15:09 tabledresser [Table] IamA Norwegian girl who stood 200 meters away from the Norwegian Government building as it blew up the 22nd of July, AMA.
|What did you first think it was? What did you do right after you heard the bomb go off?||First I thought it was some sort of demolition gone wrong, and I tried to remember if there were any scheduled demolitions or something in that area. Also, from the sound of it, it sounded like it came from the Oslo Central Station, which is about 500 meters south of the Government building, but since the Central Station is a very tall structure, I suppose it reflected the sound or something.|
|Right after the bomb went off, I started talking to randoms on the street, and (jokingly) arrived at the conclusion that someone must have blown up the Government building. A surprising number of people were laughing, some even said we had it coming for our involvement in the Middle East and such.|
|Then my mom called. She told me to get out of town as soon as possible, which was difficult since all public transportation had ceased, but aforementioned friends had a car, so it worked out.|
|This is pretty much what I thought. I was down by the Central Station (by Børsen) and everything shook. Then my mom called, she used to work in Høyblokka (the blown up building) and she saw the smoke from north in Oslo.||Breivik hadde jo planlagt flere mål, men grunnet pengemangel fikk han ikke laget nok bomber... Aftenposten, arbeiderparti-bygget, NRK, og så videre. Hadde de sprengt arbeiderparti-bygget, kunne jeg nok kanskje vært død nå. Jeg stod foran McDonald's i Storgata, liksom. Ekkelt å tenke på. Jeg dro jo rett opp på en skogfest like etter smellet, og ei venninne ringte meg og fortalte at det var en gærning på en øy som dreiv og skøyt AUF-kids, og at i alle fall ti var døde. Jeg trodde først hun tulla, sånt skjer ikke i Norge, liksom. Deretter kom det fler og fler folk på festen, alle hadde med seg nyheter. Uff, det var grusomt. Kjente du noen på Utøya?|
|Then I went home from work and a friend came to pick me up about an hour and a half later. We were driving to Asker, and loads of police cars passed us on the freeway going out of Oslo. We were really confused. Then we got to his place and saw the news. So bizarre and wierd..|
|How do you feel about stopping Anders Behring Breiviks defence speech from coming on Norwegian TV (only being filtered through quotes and people commenting on his quotes)?||I understand how some people might not want to hear it, but they are free to turn off their radios and TVs.|
|I think anyone should be allowed to defend themselves, no matter how much we disagree with them. I am disappointed that Breivik isn't given the same rights as everyone else, and it undermines the Norwegian people's effort to remain civilized after the bombing. (Civilized: Not going all USA on people, being suspicious of EVERYONE, arresting random people for looking funny at police officers, etc.)|
|(Civilized: Not going all USA on people, being suspicious of EVERYONE, >arresting random people for looking funny at police officers, etc.) As a United States citizen I would buy you a beer if I had the opportunity. Well said :)||I'll hold you to that!|
|The phrase and the implications of "going all USA on people" scares me for more reasons than I can reasonably articulate.||This amuses me more than I can reasonably articulate.|
|I'm an American that wants to move to Norway! :)||Do it! You won't regret it.|
|It's hardly normal for a public trial to be broadcast at all, and it really would be exactly what he wanted. Everything he says will be made available for anyone interested in due time--as is normal for a public trial.||A public trial for a public massacre.|
|I totally want to try some långfärdsskridsko.||Well, you won't get those in Norway, because that's Swedish;D.|
|Norwegian: Æ, Ø, Å Swedish: Ä, Ö, Å.|
|Oops, I screwed up ... I meant long distance river skating.||I think långfärdsskridsko means long distance riding shoes.|
|I might be wrong, though. Norwegian and Swedish are almost the same, with a few exceptions that makes communicating with them hilarious.|
|Edit: I think 'skrid' means 'avalanche', or something like that.|
|Avalanche is 'skred' in Swedish, not 'skrid'. 'skrid' means proceed or glide.||Aha! I am wiser now.|
|*Greetings from Austria. Aksel Lund Svindal is awesome, I root for him over most of our skiers, but Anders Bardal had to be the most lucky ski jumping overall world cup winner I have ever seen. ;)||I don't watch the ski races, but it's nice that you're rooting for our athletes!|
|"Green party" som i MDG?||Jepp.|
|You are claiming the labour party took advantage of the situation? I don't vote labour myself, but fuck you very much!||Since you insist: Jail.|
|What we are discussing, and the only question of importance to the trial, is whether he should be convicted as a criminal and put in jail or considered mentally ill and be hospitalised for the rest of his life.||Also, getting angry on Reddit er å bæsje litt på leggen, da.|
|Pent å høre, samme her!||Hvordan kan man ikke stemme på noen som har en gressplen som inventar i boden sin, liksom?|
|True that. You're still way off.||You're the kind of angry person who needs someone to yell at. I've already considered most of your views and concluded that you're seem very educated on the matter and that I mostly agree with you, despite not sharing your opinions before you presented them. I have no desire being right. You, however, seem to hate being wrong and bash people just in case you are.|
|Which, in this case, you are not. I'm just sayin', bro.|
|Wow. Everybody else is either imbeciles (FrP) or evil (Høyre). You seem sane.||I could go deeper, but it doesn't matter to you unless you're Norwegian. And if you're Norwegian, you understand where I'm coming from, whether you agree or not.|
|Du preiker mye sannhet! Elsker det at Herr Båtstrand minner om Mr Tumnus også. For en kar!||Som representant for den kvinnelige delen av befolkningen, kan jeg vedgå at Båtstrand har en MEGET vinnende utstråling. Herrejøjemin, for et skjegg.|
|Enig. Men for et slapt håndtrykk.||Har du... TATT på ham? * *,|
|Do you think Anders had help from "insiders" to get weapons and bullets to help him do what he did?||Either that, or he's VERY crafty. And from the current live video feed and descriptions of him, he doesn't seem very crafty at all. More like a stupid teenager proud to front some moronic case that will make everyone know "how awesome he is", or something. But that's just my opinion.|
|Read your other answers and like them, but in the Breivik discussion most other Norwegian redditors seem to be very different from you. Thanks||Oh, what do the other Norwegians say here on Reddit?|
|Did you know anyone personally that was unfortunately killed during Breiviks spree?||I am glad to say I did not. I've heard tons of stories from friends and acquaintances, though.|
|One good story from Utøya: One of my little brother's friends, who wasn't even a very good swimmer, carried a wounded friend on his back all the way to the next island. That is a true hero!|
|I just noticed you typed this, "...or anything else regarding Norway...".||I watched five minutes of one episode, didn't care for it. That being said, I'm not the target audience. I'm bored whenever there are no spaceships, swordfights or dinosaurs.|
|What do you think about the TV show "Lilyhammer?"||You need to ask someone else!|
|Many people in America tend to depict Norway as an almost utopian place where there is beautiful mountain countryside, no crime, good economy, little poverty, and a government that listens to it's people. Is Norway really like that? (Besides the time of the attack happened)||Beautiful mountain countryside: Yes, full of ass-backwards people who vote for FrP (what Sarah Palin would be in if she was Norwegian) because they don't like foreigners and paying taxes. But yeah, the mountains are amazing, and everyone should visit Norway some time just to see them, especially during summer.|
|No crime: Little serious crime. We have our assault rapes and bank robberies, our drug dealers and car thefts, but on a daily basis Norway is almost crime free... If you don't count ents, trees and those who distribute it, whom I don't consider criminals at all. (Pro legalization, ofc.)|
|Good economy: Hells to the yes. But people expect you to have money, too. So that if you're poor, you're suddenly not worth shit, even if you have a home and don't starve. Poverty in Norway isn't dying of hunger, it's being left out. I think this worst for children.|
|Government listening to people: Haha, really? No government I know of does that. The Norwegian government (owned by the Labour Party) doesn't give a shit about the people. IMO.|
|Thats the last straw. I'm moving to Norway. Have you ever been to Flekkefjørd? My great grandfather is from there! :D.||It's called Flekkefjord!:P And no, haven't been there. And yes! Come, come, Norway is pretty much awesome. At least compared to most places.|
|What's your opinion on Blitz?||Been there a couple of times, and MAN, they are a mad bunch of bitches. Mad as in angry. It seems to me they just hate everyone who isn't a blitzer.|
|If you need a place to hang out that doesn't throw you out if you don't pay for a 39 kr latte, I suggest Hausmania. Nicer people, better food (in my opinion) and the atmosphere is just... freer.|
|Hey since you are here, how cold does it get in June in Norway? I'm gonna take a trip past Bergen and on to the atlantic road... but I'm planning on camping. Wondering how bad of an idea that might be. I was just in Oslo last weekend and it was -1 and ice rain in the morning.||I have actually been in Bergen, so I don't personally know what it's like during the summer. Rainy, I've been told, but that's all.|
|But Norway CAN be pretty warm in June. If you're lucky.|
|As a former Oslo resident i totally disagree with my fellow Norwegians statement here. Blitz is a REALLY welcoming community regardless of race/looks/tastes. They do however judge you quite heavily if your political viewpoint is too far right =)||I have attended concerts there, those were really nice. But on a daily basis, I feel like it's sort of a secret club you weren't supposed to know about.|
|And well... If I vote, I vote Green Party, other than that I tend to be mistaken for an anarchist. I don't know what to tell people, though. Not really sure what I am, but I am VERY certain I do not challenge the common Blitzer's world view.|
|Starvin' Marvin should visit both, in my opinion, and make up his own mind. Perhaps he likes aggressive punks. I prefer relaxed hippies!:)|
|Last year in Trondheim, a city in the middle of Norway, we had temperatures as low as -30C during the winter and somewhere around +30C during the summer. With tons of rain and snow and shit, of course.||Never a year without snow, rain and sludd and slaps and sørpe and holkeføre and neglsprett.|
|Did it deafen you?||For a second, but I don't know if it was panic or actually being deaf. I heard that high pitched tone (you know what I mean) but I do that whenever I'm scared shitless.|
|For future reference, what you were experiencing is called tinnitus (if I understand correctly.)||Ah! I knew that. I just forgot.|
|EDIT: Seriously people? Downvotes? It's ok to help people if it doesn't sound like they know a term for something they're describing||Why do I get it when I'm scared? Any theories?|
|It's something that develops gradually. Usually not too noticeable when you're young.||When I'm old, I'll just grow myself a new ear in a petri-dish. Complete with hairs and eardrum and everything.|
|just for formalities, do you have any proof of who you are (it can be confirmed with the OPs if you want to be anonymous)? There's been some fake AMAs lately, I'd be sad to see this be another one!||The only proof I have is my own facebook status from some hours later... I'm sorry I can't prove it. I understand if you choose not to believe me.|
|Do you think Norway is a county worth moving to? Do you think think foreign people have a hard time adjusting to the Norwegian culture? Do people speak English on a daily-basis in Norway?||If you're from a country where people speak on the bus or actually touch eachother without one party feeling harassed, you might not like Norway. Everyone stands a few feet away at the bus stop, we don't kiss when we greet someone and if you talk to strangers, they think you're crazy. Once you get to know people, though, they are nice. Oh, and Norwegians hardly ever apologize for anything, like stepping on your foot.|
|People younger than 50 are usually able to speak a full English sentence, but old people usually only speak Norwegian, and sometimes German. Younger people are very proficient at speaking English, mostly thanks to gaming and pop culture.|
|I'm curious why do old Norwegians talk German?||I don't know. I just made the observation that they usually speak German before English. With that said, the majority only speaks Norwegian.|
|Oh, and Norwegians hardly ever apologize for anything, like stepping on your foot. "Oh, did I step on your foot?" "Yepp." "Would do it again."||Haha! I wish!|
|1.) How do you feel about the trial not being broadcast to the public?||1: It was the only way, when the case affected the public this much. I am glad we know what's going on.|
|2.) Are you afraid something like this will happen again? (or that he has inspired more people to carry out more acts?)||2: I am, actually. But that's the traumatized part of me, the part that stood in Storgata and saw the smoke speeding down from the Government Building. I don't know if other people are afraid too. I just jump whenever I hear thunder.|
|As an American, I'm so impressed with the way your country has worked through this -- introspection rather than violent lashing out at other countries to feel better about yourselves. We could learn something here. Best of luck.||Everyone can learn from us, I agree. Most other countries would declare war on something or someone and spend their resources accordingly. Here we bought roses at marched down the street.|
|Link to tagesschau.vo.llnwd.net. And congratulation to your country on how you handle the situation.||I don't speak much German, so I can't confirm what he's saying, but I can confirm what I see. And it seems accurate, yes.|
|The date of my birth. How long did the shock last?||Thanks to a bunch of friends living downtown, I was talked down from the shock, so it only lasted about half an hour... But I was shaky for a week, and every time I hear thunder, or demolotion or things falling... Flashback!|
|Thats terrible. Im interested in Norway so im going to go off topic and hit you with some stereotypes out of curiosity. What are your religious views? Do you listen to metal music? Have you seen Trollhunter, did you like it?||I'm an atheist humanitarian, I think. I'm very skeptical by nature, but always open to at least investigating new ideas.|
|I did listen to metal before, but now I'm more into electronica, for some reason.|
|I saw Trollhunter, and I liked it - but Otto Jespersen (the protagonist) is a comedian, not an actor, and it shows.|
|Awesome, thank you for indulging my curiosity. Did not know that about Otto Jespersen, then again how would I. Great AmA. Very interesting/informative. One more. Whats the best Norwegian film you've seen that you would suggest?||*Fatso (Foreveralone virgin is forced to live with hot Swedish chick) *Mannen som elsket Yngve (Commie kid exiting the closet) *Elling (Adult aspie's mother dies, he has to move out) *Svidd Neger (black kid grows up in rural Northern Norway, thinks he's Sapmi)|
|Do you believe in elves? Do you know anyone around you who does?||Sorry, no elves. I know people who believe in them, but... That's because they're hippies. High as fuck, trippin' on DMT and shit.|
|Thank you. Now I wonder how hard it will be to get ahold of these.||Ahoy, I know a bay where the wenches are wet and the grog is golden...|
|A DMT trip lasts only 15 minutes and I highly doubt someone would be even able to talk during such a trip.||Yeah, but they are able to talk afterwards.|
|I've never ventured to those waters. I don't oppose it, just never have. First time for everything?||Yarr, matey.|
|of all, Norway rules! You guys love fish and metal music, thats cool!||Haha, I came to Reddit, I think I'm pretty relaxed about insensitivities.|
|of all, what was the immediate aftermath like? I've always wondered what it would be like just after a bomb went off.. were people screaming and running, was it like a movie? Sorry if its insensitive, just really curious!||Fire alarms went off in all buildings, smoke emerged from the bomb site and filled the city, people were screaming, kids were crying, everyone who'd been inside the buildings rushed out, filling the streets. I saw a woman who bled from her head, I think she was hit by glass from the imploding windows of a nearby 7Eleven. Didn't look serious, though.|
|Do you agree with the judge that recently got removed the case that Breivik should face the death penalty?||I don't agree with him, and saying something like that on Facebook (or wherever it was) when you're the judge is bloody stupid.|
|So in USA, we are told that "this can happen to us" (and sometimes it does). After that attack, does Norway have that "this can happen to us" attitude, or does it just seem like something that happened and probably won't ever happen again?||I haven't encountered any of that "this could happen to us"-attitude. Perhaps it's just not in us. Hooray!|
|Mental note to use "daft as bread" in the future.||Also try using "born behind a barn". Northern Norwegian expression describing someone who's beyond retarded.|
|Has this become Norway's equivalent to 9/11? How do you think this is going to affect pop culture/public conscience in Norway?||I think it might be an equivalent, yes. It has already begun to affect public conscience in that discussing negative aspects of immigration has become more taboo, and even the police has stated that they encourage people to inform them if anyone's having "dangerous opinions".|
|But it's not bad. At least not yet, and it will never reach American proportions.|
|Pop culture has already sung most of its songs about it, but mentions of it are everywhere. The newspapers hasn't been writing about anything else for almost a year, it seems.|
|Now I'm also confused on your penal system, is Brevik facing a lifelong sentence in prison or is there a chance he could end up exiting prison in the future?||We could keep him in custody indefinitely, I think.|
|You seem very opinionated, borderline prejudice, about some of the things you've mentioned in your replies. You used some strong language about both the labour party and the progress party. What caused you to form these strong opinions? Do you think they are objective or subjective?||I am a subject, therefore my opinions are not objective. I never pretended they were. I did not make this thread pretending to be an ambassador for Norway, or anything. Feel free to disagree with me.|
|Labour Party: The usual, broken promises, corrupted power structures, Mafia-like handling of internal disputes, involvement in some pretty dirty business (some are actually conspiracy theories), and so on. The Progress Party: The vast majority of their voters seem to lack comprehension of the way society works. For instance, you can't make everything cheapebettefastestronger while lowering taxes. You can't throw every Muslim immigrant applying for citizenship out of the country, because not all of them are angry, fundamentalist men who wants to rape women and live on state benefits.|
|I read the FrP manifesto(is that the right translation of parti-program?), and compared to those of the other parties, FrP used FAR more single-syllable words and short, simple sentences. It was as if they were targeting 9th graders, or (ironically) people who don't speak Norwegian very well.|
|These are a few of my reasons why I don't like AP (Labour) or FrP (Progress).|
|Just to give people an idea of how powerful the bomb blast was, I live about 15-20 km away. Even with that distance and hills/mountains between me and Oslo, I still heard a loud rumble when it went off, and even felt some light tremors. I assumed it was just powerful thunder. Can't imagine what it was like 200 metres away. You didn't know anyone on Utøya, I hope?||I did not, but some of my friends did. My little brother's best friend was there, but he survived.|
|Do you know who fredric aasbo is? Hes the man. Sorry to answer my own question.||You know my homeboy Fredric Aasbo? Shiiiit, son!|
|No, I don't know him. Do you know Carl?|
|What do you think the public sentiment is on "multiculturalism" in Norway? When I visited Oslo it didn't seem any more diverse than anywhere else in Europe, maybe less so than many cities.||The Norwegian sentiment on multiculturalism varies from place to place - the most important factor in forming an ethnically Norwegian person's opinions about foreigners (I think) is whether or not he or she has access to other cultures. I'll give a few examples, since I've lived a lot of places in this country: - - - 1: Rural coastal town in Northern Norway with one asylum housing about 50 people: "Them foreigners come here and steal our shit and rape our women. I wish they'd just go back to Niggerland and spread their AIDS there in stead." (I've hear people say things like this.) - - - 2: Worker town in south-eastern Norway with ghetto suburbs: "Well, some of them are nice, some are criminals, I like the ones who are nice." - - - 3: Oslo West: "Oh, they're so adorable, look at their funny clothes." (Or so I've been told) - - - 4: ... And in the Eastern parts of Oslo most people get along.|
|Also do you personally think Anders is insane? Do Norwegians think that the potential for him to be put in psychiatric care is a good thing or would they prefer prison or maybe even the death penalty if it was an option?||I don't think he's insane, I think he's stupid. Literally - he lacks knowledge about almost everything he's stating as reasons for the attacks. He seems proud, almost - as if he's fronting a case he thinks is 'cool'. Showing off, doing gestures in court, etc - he thinks he's awesome. He's like a teenager. Most people want him to go to jail, because they - like me - don't believe he's crazy. And even if he was, I think they'd prefer him going to jail. Many would like to see him killed, but I honestly think that if people had the chance to kill him, they'd just pity him and slam him into some jail cell and let him rot there.|
|How popular is the right wing sentiment that Breivik bears in Norway or Europe in General? I did see support for Breivik in many forums. Ofcourse, the majority were oppposing, but i definitely saw support for him.||It is as you say. A minority supports him, but most people don't. I don't know what else to say, you put it best yourself:P.|
|Are you following the trial closely?||I'm not reading every article, but I do pay attention, yes.|
|Do you know any live streaming sites?||Www.dagbladet.no streamed live earlier today, I don't know about now.|
|What were your initial thoughts as to what happened?||Actually - As soon as I stopped thinking it was some sort of demolition gone wrong, I thought somebody blew up the Government Building. And I was right.|
|What do you feel about multiculturalism? Some people automatically decry his acts of violence but then they.........sympathize with his reasoning.||Every culture is a multiculture. A culture is a gathering of people who exchange ideas, and even though they might - ethnically - be similar, everyone has different viewpoints. The sum of everyone is a culture, and a culture exists thanks to multitude. A culture where everyone thinks, believes and wants the same is called a mono-culture. (Like when you go to Mongolia and find a Starbucks next to McDonald's and people listen to Justin Bieber on their Sony Ericsson Xperias)|
|Hence, I am for CULTURE. And a culture without new impulses is harmful to those it envelops. We need new people, new ideas to bring the world forward.|
|However, we must be allowed to point our fingers at dangerous ideas and tell those who advocate them that we will not have it. For instance - American views on health care would ruin Norwegian society. As would Islamic ideas of female submission, South-Asian work ethics (they work 'till they drop, and the West abuses this), Russian corruption, and so on. Every culture has something good, every culture has something bad. We must not exclude people, but we may exclude some of their ideas.|
|Sorry for the long rant, but I trust you know what I mean.|
|Are right wing propaganda networks allowed in Norway? (Things like Fox News, radio shows like Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, etc., fear mongers.)||Yes, they are allowed. Like in any other country.|
|But the NRK (Norwegian State Broadcasting) is more or less owned by the Labour Party, and most of the other TV/radio channels are bought and paid for by commercials, which means that they mostly won't raise political issues, fearing they'll lose viewers.|
|Norway is a predominantly socialist country, which means that the media also favors the Left. Unfortunately, right-winged news sources tend to be pushed out of business by the Leftist Media - or so I'm told by those who favor the 'blue parties'. We have reason to worry if this is true, but I can neither confirm nor disprove it.|
|How does it feel to know that the asshole behind all of this will only get 20 something years?||I have trouble believing he'll run smiling out of the prison in 20 years, no matter the outcome of this trial. And even if he does get out, he'll be banished to a cabin on a windy mountain somewhere and CLOSELY monitored for the rest of his life. I'm not too worried, actually.|
|Would you date an American? I've always liked Scandinavian ladies.||Personally, what I care about when it comes to a man's nationality, is whether or not he'll be going home to stay anytime soon. I can't do long distance.|
|Hilsen fra Norge :) Det må ha vært forferdelig å være så nærme bomben... Glad for at du slapp at noen du kjente døde da :) Hvorfor var du i Oslo da bomben gikk av, bor du der? ________________________ Greetings from Norway :) It must have been horrible to be so close to the bomb... Glad you didn't know anyone that died though :) Why were you in Oslo when the bomb went off, do you live there?||Yes, I live in Oslo. I was downtown because of a job interview, but... for obvious reasons, that never happened. And I'm glad, really. Would have sucked to get that job anyway:P.|
|It was horrible, but the memory of it is more like a movie than my other memories. Can't explain it, it's like watching myself from the outside.|
|Lika du potetball? /m eller uten sokker?||Nope. "Do you like potato ball with or without socks"...|
|Do you like potatoballs with or without sugar ^||Liker du potetballer med eller uten sukker? would be right.|
|I ...was testing you? :P My written norwegian is terrible :(||I know! I just corrected you, so you get better!|
|Maybe it's tactless to joke, but did you act anything like this?||Yes! In that I didn't actually SEE the explosion. And joking is never tactless!|
|Why do the Norwegians hate whales so much? I'm ancestrally half Norwegian. I'm from Alaska and grew up with locals who hunt whales. I've eaten whale. But when I browsed Norwegian corners of the internet (admittedly this was 15 years ago). I was surprised at how pervasively some Norwegians liked to just kill whales. It seemed a common perception at the time. Is this just Norwegian knuckle-dragging by a few?||I like whales! But I'm voting for The Green Party, so...|
|I don't think that would be the case if it wasn't for the party in the forest. Then I'd just be a scared, nervous wreck.||I have to say, I don't know how I'd react if he was shooting at me or anyone I knew personally. Closest I come to the massacre, was my brother's best friend, who survived without a scratch.|
|If I ever get out to Norway, we're hanging out! Sounds like just the way to follow up such a traumatic experience, letting it all go!||And yeah, it was awesome. Add me as a friend and tell me if you ever come to Norway!|
|I am glad that you aren't suffering any long-term PTSD symptoms, and also read some of your other comments and am thoroughly warmed by your attitude that even this man deserves a fair trial. Way to be awesome :)||Everyone deserves a fair trial. If we start exempting people from that rule, we're heading down a slippery slope. Suddenly you don't deserve a fair trial because you've got a different faith than the majority, or something.|
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